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Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:25 pm
by Alex
I'm not very familiar with Atari 8-bit computers. What is the best Windows utility for editing atr Atari disk images? At the moment I have AtrUtil95 1.13 but it cannot add or delete files to the images. It says "Deleting files from DOS 2.5 ED images is not yet supported". Can someone help?

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:17 am
by Garry
I normally user ATR Tools by Jay L Bray. It's not the greatest program on the planet, but does the job.

AtrUtil by Ken Siders is easier to use for basic functions like Delete, Rename and Export files.

makeATR by soudi is similar to AtrUtil, but also has a sector viewer.

I don't have any download links to hand. Let me know if you can't find them and I'll do a search. Otherwise, ask on AtariAge.

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:09 am
by Alex
Thank you! I'll give them a try.
Garry wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:17 am AtrUtil by Ken Siders is easier to use for basic functions like Delete, Rename and Export files.
That's the one I use, but I could not add/delete files.

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:20 am
by www.atarimania.com
I believe you can use Altirra for that as well.

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Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 4:28 pm
by Garry
Alex wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:09 am That's the one I use, but I could not add/delete files.
I just tried it using version 1.13 and it appeared to work fine. However, after saving the file and opening it again, it said *Unknown Dos Format (Not a Dos Disk)*. It looks like it screwed up the disk, so better not use that one!

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 4:35 pm
by Garry
www.atarimania.com wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:20 am I believe you can use Altirra for that as well.
You're right. Choose Tools > Disk Explorer, Click the ellipsis button to open an atr disk image, then right-click on a file and choose Delete or Rename from the shortcut menu.

Of course, you can also do this stuff using Atari DOS.

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:41 pm
by Alex
www.atarimania.com wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:20 am I believe you can use Altirra for that as well.
Unfortunately, Altirra detects that the images are corrupted (alptraum game) and goes into read-only mode.

I think you could also add this game to the missing Atari games as the versions on the internet are faulty.

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:06 pm
by Alex
makeATR did the job. Thanks!

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:54 am
by www.atarimania.com
Alex wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:41 pm Unfortunately, Altirra detects that the images are corrupted (alptraum game) and goes into read-only mode.

I think you could also add this game to the missing Atari games as the versions on the internet are faulty.
Can you confirm the one I uploaded earlier is faulty as well? Considering the files are from different sources, the problem may come from the original disk.

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Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:34 am
by Garry
I think I might have fixed it. The directory was offset by 1 sector and the first sector of the directory was replaced by dummy file names. There was a clash between the file numbers in the dummy file names and the real files so that you can't view or trace the files. DOS.SYS had been modified to accommodate the offset directory. I moved the directory to where it should be (on both disks) and replaced DOS.SYS with a non-modifed DOS.SYS and everything seems to work fine. The files can be viewed and the game runs. Can you please test it, as I don't speak German? (It looks like a good candidate for translation to English.)

Hmm, I can't attach the file. The error message says the board attachment quota has been reached. I'll try attaching it in a personal message.

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:46 am
by Garry
Alex, I couldn't get PM to accept any file extensions, so I've sent you an email.

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 8:58 am
by Alex
Thanks, I am not at home today but I wil check it tonight or tomorrow.

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:35 pm
by Alex
Unfortunately, your version does not solve the problem. Perhaps the game is just bugged. Most of the verbs are not recognized,
www.atarimania.com wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:54 am Can you confirm the one I uploaded earlier is faulty as well?
Yes, unfortunately the version on Atarimania has the same problem.

Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:37 am
by www.atarimania.com
Alex wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:35 pm Yes, unfortunately the version on Atarimania has the same problem.
Do you mean the one on our page or from the link I provided? The latter was from a different dump and archived from an original. I understood it didn't work either so I asked DjayBee what he thought and he came up with another "version" from that second dump (exact same link, sorry if I confused you). BTW, according to him, the offset is intentional, likely a protection so that people like you don't mess around with the code :wink:

Did you try other things such as the disk read-write option on or off? Actually, DjayBee came up with a fix so the files could be accessed but that's all, no idea what's up with the game otherwise. I also have the seven "faulty" files if you need them.

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Re: Windows program to edit atr images.

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:45 pm
by Alex
Today I made it to room 29 on my map. I need to find a newspaper somewhere. I will continue tomorrow or Thursday.