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lone brave
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:25 pm
by Doreen B
I tried to input my message in white for secrecry but it didn't work,,,
So here is a direct hint.
>sling stone with belt
Doreen
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:40 pm
by Alastair
Doreen,
it should work. First, make sure 'BBCode' is on - you will have to go to 'Profile' to change this. Then you just highlight the text you want to alter, change the font colour, and use preview to check that it appears as you wish.
Terri,
Doreen has given the answer, keep in mind that it seems the construction "verb noun WITH noun" is used quite often throughout the game.
P.S. I have made progress with the fire, another "verb noun WITH noun" construction, and the horse problem seems to have resolved itself. Now I need to find the two remaining items.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:15 am
by terri
Oh my Lordy!!!
A verb rather than a noun???
Thanks folks.
OK - I'll catch up to you soon.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:57 am
by terri
Thank you both.
Well, I've explored some more, but haven't caught up yet, as I only have two items.
At the green eyes. Should one do something here, and if yes, I need a hint.
I presume the rapids are a no go?
Not sure where, and how to light the fire, nor where.
Nor what to do at the sand. I tried to dig, but either I need an implement, or it's a red herring. Just to leave the horse?
With six arrows all totalled, does that imply that you need to shoot 5 things and leave one for the Sun God?
Where the horse shies? Presumably one needs to search around this area, but nothing I tried works. Or is it just that he senses an animal. The text says something about a slithery creature and strangulation...
I hope you guys are enjoying this game. I like the descriptions, but...
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:53 pm
by Alastair
Terri, excuse me as I mess your post around.
terri wrote:Where the horse shies? Presumably one needs to search around this area, but nothing I tried works. Or is it just that he senses an animal.
I think the horse is only required for the desert, and yes, he does shy away from dangerous animals.
terri wrote:Not sure where, and how to light the fire.
With six arrows all totalled, does that imply that you need to shoot 5 things and leave one for the Sun God?
If you still have six arrows then you will not be able to light a fire.
terri wrote:At the green eyes. Should one do something here, and if yes, I need a hint.
Yes you need to do something, but it's too dark to hit the target. Remember that certain things scare wild animals.
terri wrote:(W)hat to do at the sand. I tried to dig, but either I need an implement, or it's a red herring. Just to leave the horse?
It is not a red herring, check your inventory to see if you have a suitable implement, it's only sand so you don't need a pick and shovel. This is where I had the earlier problem with the horse, but as I said, it seems to have resolved itself, perhaps due to solving other puzzles.
terri wrote:I presume the rapids are a no go?
I am not sure. I have reached the end location and cannot see any obvious remaining puzzles if the rapids are a permanent barrier, but am still missing two items. Either there are locations I have not visited, perhaps beyond the rapids, or I have not searched hard enough.
And finally
terri wrote:The text says something about a slithery creature and strangulation...
I have not found any mention of slithery creatures or strangulation, where does this occur?
lone brave
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:49 pm
by Doreen B
I have not seen any green eyes - where ?
I know there is a bear in the canyon west and north from the water pool, I have lit the torch hoping fire will scare the bear - no joy - any help ?
Would it help us to know what items you have Alastair?
D
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:01 pm
by Alastair
Doreen,
the green eyes are beyond the large cave on the other side of the river - if you cannot cross the river, explore the forest where some trees are broken.
As for the bear, treat it the same as the first mountain lion.
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:43 am
by terri
A torch?
Doreen, what items? Twigs? Flint? And...the blanket? Haven't tried that yet.
Alastair -
one arrow for the lion - so I now have 5.
one arrow for the beast past the canyon
and, if you say so - one for the green eyes
But I have no light. Not to mention permanent light. I have tried using "light" both as a verb and a noun, and am still having trouble.
Can I drop the knife once I've made shoes?
At the risk of spoiling this for others (Doreen also has some ways of cracking games), I'm gonna try to use your clever highlighting trick.
>Re: the strangulation and slithery creature. If you OPEN WITH...notepad ( .tzx game - not your saved games) you get lots of shortened-words text. This sometimes helps to figure out the verbs, words, and sometimes locations.This was not my own brilliant find. When we were playing Ulysses or Odyessy or whatever that game was called, Jacob said at one time something to the effect "interesting what opening the game in in a text file can do." With some writing systems you can even get location hints.
It worked!!
I don't have any implements to dig with. Oh - I didn't try digging with an arrow. However, that is much further down the road.
I think examining where the horse shies may be wise, no?
I don't think there are many locations to find things once you are beyond the canyon, so they have to be found before.
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:32 am
by Alastair
An Indian Brave without a knife! What are you thinking of? (That's a "you'd better keep it" by the way.)
Think of all the ways to make fire, keeping in mind your possessions - it's another "verb noun WITH noun". Your next step is to make the fire last - guess what, that's another "verb noun WITH noun" - which you have to do before making a fire, though not to worry, you can always pick up more kindling.
As for "green eyes", I said you had to scare him, banging the drum doesn't work, try something you've made.
For a digging implement, try something I told you that no Indian Brave would be without.
Now for a question of my own, which location do you mean when you talk about the horse shying?
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:55 am
by terri
Thanks for those hints, but, guess what - I managed to eventually figure it out. And yes, the knife was useful.
Anyway I have caught up with you and now have three objects.
It seems like the Sun God items really can't be used.
The horse shies at several places in the desert, and always dumps you on the path with the W and S locations, north of the frequently used path.
I know what the other two objects are. Apparently there is another one - where there are some remains (human or otherwise). Do you think that means that one has to dig somewhere else? I haven't seen anything that looks like a burial mound.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:03 am
by Alastair
terri wrote:The horse shies at several places in the desert, and always dumps you on the path with the W and S locations, north of the frequently used path.
I know the areas you mean, but if you look at the map you will see that you are moving on to the rocky outcrop south of the mountain lion cave. The scent of the lion is what scares the horse.
It may or may not be of use, but I found that if you push anything in the forest north of where the trees are not healthy the game replies "sorry that way's blocked" rather than "you can't", perhaps there's a hidden path there.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:12 am
by terri
Maybe. That's by the lion of course. But the "blocked" message appears all the time when you can't go somewhere. I have received those messages more than "I can't" ones.
Are those the areas we need to explore further? I don't remember getting many, if any, of those messages. Should we be exploring further when these occur?
Looks like we are all stuck now? Don't do this to me Alastair. You know how much I rely on you. I honestly don't know what to do next. We have got to find a snake somewhere.
lone brave
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:01 pm
by Doreen B
I still havn't been able to enter the canyon - the horse is frightened by something.
Shooting the arrow does't work...
I know the bear is there because you can go into the canyon ON FOOT - but then you promptly die...
Am I missing an important input here...
D
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:11 pm
by Alastair
Doreen,
leave the horse at the pool in the desert, then walk to the canyon.
lone brave
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:55 pm
by Doreen B
Sorry - I've tried all combinations of routes to the canyon from the pool - with or without the horse. I still die of exhaustion.
How did you manage it?
Doreen